He probably can't literally counter it, but that's not the point. Stupid cards like these are why metas are fun. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Have your bro build a deck full of tutors that revolves around A.S.S. Otherwise, put Approach of the Second Sun into its owner's library seventh . In 134 decks 4% of 3572 decks. Unlike Biorhythm and Coalition Victory, you have to cast it twice. If Approach of the Second Sun was cast from your hand and you cast another spell named Approach of the Second Sun this game, you win the game. It's more powerful than most "win the game" cards since it's a sorcery rather than a creature or enchantment, but not by much. I remember first seeing Boonweaver Karador long ago, showing me such a different way of looking at EDH. Here is my Approach of the Second Sun deck. 4/18/2017 A copy of a spell isn’t cast, so it won’t count as the first nor as the second Approach of the Second Sun. I'm glad I never did. First time you cast it, you tap out seven mana and get very little in return. Dovin Baan // Approach of the Approach costs seven mana and reads "If this spell was cast from your hand and you've cast another spell named Approach of the Second Sun this game, you win the game. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the CompetitiveEDH community. Approach of the Second Sun - (G) (SF) (MC) (ER)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call - Updated images. He argues that he can't counter it because he doesn't play Blue. He argues that he can't counter it because he doesn't play Blue. Approach of the Second Sun is a great card to build around for a control strategy as the life buffer goes a long way to making sure that you stay alive to cast a 7-mana spell twice. It gives your opponents fair shot at defeating you or stopping it, if they can't do it, it's on them, not on you. I find it appalling that many people find cEDH an antithesis to regular EDH. He just can't use an actual Counterspell to do so. I would argue that it's way way less degenerate than infinite loops. It's the MTG equivalent of an evil master mind divulging his full plan before he actually does it. Show him the error of his ways. If Approach of the Second Sun was cast from your hand and you've cast another spell named Approach of the Second Sun this game, you win the game. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, KefNOT the Controlfreak/The Nope Pope/Edric's weenie death squad. This site is unaffiliated. Approach of the Second Sun – If the Cloudstone Curio combo does not allow you to get out a win from this deck, Approach of the Second Sun should do the trick. Updated Apr 07, 2017 by peasln using our MTG Deck Builder. I saw the new Approach of the Second Sun card and figured there had to be a way to make … Hello everyone! While these sorceries might not be the most efficient or fastest win condition, they can serve as an acceptable alternative in EDH decks. [[Approach of the Second Sun]] I gotchoo fam, Approach of the Second Sun - (G) (SF) (MC) (ER)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call - Updated images. Access to more copies protects you from discard and countermagic, but more importantly it allows you to cast Approaches on consecutive turns to win the game quickly. I made a slight update to my budget version of Approach of the Second Sun. This is a subreddit dedicated to playing the Commander format of Magic: The Gathering at the highest power level possible. Black could play [[Praetor's Grasp]]. I just say that it is fair because poeple often say "if you pay 8+ mana for a single spell you should win" and this is 14 mana, it may not be flashy but it is the same concept right? I wouldn't say it's OP, but your friend sounds like he is frustrated by the fact that outside of blue and some fringe other colored counterspells, there is no direct way for him to stop you aside from racing you drawing the card again. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Ancestral Knowledge - (G) (SF) (MC) (ER)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call - Updated images. Unlike counterspells, it's a proactive way to keep from losing. With lots of cycling and drawing you can reach your second sun fairly quickly! Magic The Gathering, magic cards, singles, decks, card lists, deck ideas, wizard of the coast, all of the cards you need at great prices are available at Cardkingdom. Build a cheap monored deck. We're all EDH players in the end: same What kind of deck is he playing that he can't kill you before you cast two of those? It's fair and balanced. Nevermore - (G) (SF) (MC) (ER)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call - Updated images, is the 7 mana sorcery that you have to cast twice to win opThe answer is no. My bro especially finds it OP in 1v1 but i see it as the same thing when you cast an 8+ mana spell. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. It's in my WG enchantress deck. Flash is 1U win the game at instant speed so no, approach is not op. I figure 50 dollars is budget enough to be semi competitive without … if you have mana or As Foretold, Failure / Comply lets you win off just one Approach of the Second Sun by returning it to your hand and allowing you to cast the same one next turn. EDH Recommendations and strategy content for Magic: the Gathering Commander Hell, you can [[Nevermore]] after they play it the first time, Looks like OP's brother needs to be more aggro or faster on his own set up. https://deckstats.net/decks/36663/1674366-mate-s-end-golos/en Mates End Golos (EDH / Commander) Mazes End focused EDH deck. The second Approach of the Second Sun that you cast must be cast from your hand, but first may have been cast from anywhere. Press J to jump to the feed. Most infinites can't really be stopped once they go off, while this gives you plenty of time to deal with the threat. All Editions Standard Only Exclude Promos Exclude Alpha/Beta My bro especially finds it OP in 1v1 but i see it as the same thing when you cast an 8+ mana spell. It's not. White could play [[Nevermore]]. I just say that it is fair because poeple often say "if you … are plentiful. 18 votes, 60 comments. Approach of the Second Sun is the perfect victory condition in Standard. No, it's no more degenerate that any infinite loop, It costs a lot of mana, goes to a telegraphed place and needs to be cast again. If you plan to include Approach of the Second Sun in a white deck, consider running Silence, Orim's Chant, and Abeyance for protection. #approach of the second sun, #coalition victory, #felidar sovereign, #happily ever after, #hellkite tyrant, #laboratory maniac, #mazes end, #revel in riches, #vraska golgari queen, #vraska the unseen Read More » If Approach of the Second Sun was cast from your hand and you've cast another spell named Approach of the Second Sun this game, you win the game. Control Censor Creature control/Removal: i rather prefer the kill/sacrifice creature more than a counterspell, so thats why we have Blessed Alliance, Fumigate, Engulf the Shore, Cast Out. Continue this thread. Or you're waiting for seven turns after you cast a seven-mana sorcery, which seems like Fair Magic. Magic The Gathering, magic cards, singles, decks, card lists, deck ideas, wizard of the coast, all of the cards you need at great prices are available at Cardkingdom. Every deck has access to [[Jester's Cap]]! http://magiccards.info/query?q=o%3Atarget+o%3Aplayer+o%3Ashuffle+o%3Alibrary+%28c%3Ac+or+c%21wbrg%29&v=card&s=cmc. {{Approach of the Second Sun}}. Mono-Red, Temur Energy, and even U/B Control focus on powerful creatures to win the game, so Harnessed Lightning, Fatal Push, Vraska’s Contempt, and Essence Scatter are plentiful. If this spell was cast from your hand and you’ve cast another spell named Approach of the Second Sun this game, you win the game. I play it in my deck and my playgroup finds the card "meh" too. If I'm generating so much mana and card draw that I can cast it, tuck it, draw it back and cast it again all on the same turn while my opponents just sit there and let me do it then I deserve to win. It's a nice way to keep That One Deck in your meta in-check. Teferi, Time Raveler. $19.99. Otherwise, put Approach of the Second Sun into its owner's library seventh from the top and you gain 7 life." 5) Drake Haven - making flying 2/2 drakes for 1 is great value, especially when you consider how many cards I might be cycling a turn. One time I thought about making a GAAIV list with this as one of the win conditions as a joke. Press J to jump to the feed. That depends - are you running [[Ancestral Knowledge]] in that deck? Cmc of 7 and giving opponents a window to stop you (or demanding a setup to draw much faster) are fair downsides for instawin card. I just say that it is fair because poeple often say "if you pay 8+ mana for a single spell you should win" and this is 14 mana, it may not be flashy but it is the same concept right? Narset Transcendent // Approach of the Second Sun (Deck) Updated May 12, 2020 by crimsoncubic using our MTG Deck Builder. I play it in my deck and my playgroup finds the card "meh" too. Radiophage. Narset, Elightened Master EDH Storm Main strategy is to utilize extra turn spells like Temporal Mastery with extra turn spells like Aggravated Assault Eventual plan to win off of Approach of the Second Sun or have Omniscience and flip into Enter the Infinite By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Even if the offending deck doesn't show up, you can still use it to simply remove someone's more powerful plays. Approach of the Second Sun requires that you at least use other cards like wheels, tutors, or Remand effects to break it if you want to win this turn. Otherwise, put Approach of the Second Sun into its owner's library sevent from the top and you gain 7 life. level 1. I play it in my deck and my playgroup finds the card "meh" too. 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